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Post by Burns on Jan 24, 2008 4:14:01 GMT -5
The regulator finally arrived today. it has three yellow wires on the connector that goes to the stator, as it should, but the out put side connector has 5 wires - 2 solid light green on one side of the connector, 2 dark green (or maybe brown) with a white stripe on the other side and one solid black in the middle. It's supposed to be from a 86 VF500. Will this work? Do I marry (splice together) the like-colored wires?
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Post by Burns on Jan 24, 2008 12:29:36 GMT -5
I misstyped the year on that stator. It is represented as a 1985 VF500.
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Post by Burns on Jan 25, 2008 20:41:43 GMT -5
Well, I got the colors wrong too. Color-blindness makes wiring a real challenge. The output side connector from the regulator has two green wires on one side, one black in the middle, and two RED with white stipe on the other side.
Help me here - did the seller send me the wrong part? Can this regulator be used in this application.
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Post by mrriggs on Jan 26, 2008 10:32:01 GMT -5
I don't know off hand what the correct wiring is. The extra wire is probably a voltage sense wire. If you can find a schematic for a VF500 then we can figure it out. I'm sure that regulator will work, it's just a matter of where to hook the wires.
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Post by Burns on Jan 26, 2008 20:36:26 GMT -5
Thanks, I'm looking for a schematic, but havn't located one yet.
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Post by Burns on Jan 26, 2008 23:35:29 GMT -5
I couldn't find a VF500 schematic, but the GL500 uses the same R/R and I did find one for that bike. The BLACK wire from the R/R on that schematic traces to a "Starter- Engine Stop Switch" which I assume cuts the starter motor power when it gets a signal that the alternator is shedding electrons.
The GL500 schematic shows one GREEN and one RED/WHITE for the other wires coming off the R/R.
The GREEN goes to ground. The RED/WHITE goes to a fuse then to the + pole of the Battery.
The wires on the R/R that I have are the correct colors, but there are two of each of the GREEN and RED/WHITE.
I'm guessing that I should cap the BLACK (not use it) marry the like-colored wires, run the RED/WHITE to a fuse, then to the positive pole of the battery (or to a capacitor) and run the GREEN to a good ground or to the negative side of the battery.
Does that sound right to you?
I'm guessing that I can splice the same colors together
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Post by bigj650 on Jan 28, 2008 3:40:08 GMT -5
Hi I'm new to the board and was looking for a way to go batteryless on my chop. This looks like the ticket. I am still pretty green with motorcycles and had a few questions. I have a 1980 special.
1. What kind of ignition are you using with this setup?
2. Do I need to change mine/what is mine?
I'm going to rewire the bike soon anyways and want to make it as minimalist as possible. Any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks.
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Post by mrriggs on Jan 28, 2008 15:35:00 GMT -5
I couldn't find a VF500 schematic, but the GL500 uses the same R/R and I did find one for that bike. The BLACK wire from the R/R on that schematic traces to a "Starter- Engine Stop Switch" which I assume cuts the starter motor power when it gets a signal that the alternator is shedding electrons. Sounds like that regulator would be just the ticket for someone who wanted to convert their stock bike over and retain the safety relay. Yep, connect the same-color wires together. Red/White through fuse to battery, green to ground. Based on your description of the black wire, I would agree that you should leave it disconnected. |
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Post by mrriggs on Jan 28, 2008 15:50:07 GMT -5
Hi I'm new to the board and was looking for a way to go batteryless on my chop. This looks like the ticket. I am still pretty green with motorcycles and had a few questions. I have a 1980 special. 1. What kind of ignition are you using with this setup? This is what I'm using. xs650temp.proboards29.com/index.cgi?board=ID&action=display&thread=1141872309Since it's an '80 you probably have a TCI ignition. If that is the case then you will need to change it. The TCI is triggered by a magnet on the rotor passing a pickup on the stator housing. This conversion eliminates both those parts so your ignition will no longer work. |
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Post by Burns on Jan 28, 2008 17:09:42 GMT -5
MrRiggs
Thank you for all your help on this one. I owe you one. I do have another question though. In your opinion, does the heat-sink affect you get from mounting the R/R to a hefty frame member (like the stock mount) outweigh the increased air-flow and the vibration isolation you'd get from rubber mounting the R/R in the breeze under the triple-tree?
Bigj650
You'll have the same situation as somebody who swaps in a rotor/stator from an older XS into a newer XS - no trigger for the TCI. One way or the other you will need to trigger your ignition from the cam shaft. There are several solutions.
I have points. If you want to install a point system you can get the parts you need from Ebay (catch-as-catch can) or you can buy new. MikesXS has all the parts. He even has a dual-cam single points set up, which is pretty cool.
There are several electronic systems that trigger from the cam shaft.
Boyer-Branson systems are recommended by folks whose recommendations are worthy of following.
But bang-for-the-buck has to go to MrRiggs system. His way is hundreds of dollars less than any other option.
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Post by bigj650 on Jan 28, 2008 23:08:36 GMT -5
Thanks very much for your help guys. Looks like I have a few parts to scrounge up. Mrriggs you are a genious! that ignition is sweet, definately going to add that one to the "to-do" and parts list.
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nickswan
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1973 tx650
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Post by nickswan on Feb 8, 2008 7:21:53 GMT -5
why is this not a sticky?
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nickswan
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Post by nickswan on Feb 8, 2008 7:39:52 GMT -5
absolutely want to do this, is this going to work says its from a 95-06 BANSHEE YFZ350 certainly looks different than the vf500 one you used.  |
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Post by Six-Five-O on Feb 8, 2008 9:47:48 GMT -5
Why not read the Banshee magneto thread?
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nickswan
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1973 tx650
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Post by nickswan on Feb 8, 2008 10:17:27 GMT -5
ok, i think i have all the right parts coming. does this look right? says its off a 84 honda vf1000  very few had just five wires. |
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