I am running an industrial chain and have run for a few years on other bikes. You just have to be careful of buying it that is all. Here is why I wrote it that way. I have a 100ft length I bought 8-9+ years ago. I have maybe 5-6 chains out of it and have used it very very little in the last few years. I check clean and lube it often so my maintenance is pretty good. However when I bought that chain, I had this old GSXR dude who was my mentor of sorts. I only bought htings he had used and said good things about. This chain was one of those. I entirely forgot what he had told me then, and I still dont remember it. but now that I ahve thought about it after you guys chided me, I remember him saying that the chain was made as bulk chain by diamond and sold to bike shops for sale as loose (or per link priced chain) I have never had this one come off, or even wear excessively. Maybe in the 8 years I believe it even longer than that, its prolly 12-13 years maybe chain quality has dropped in the bulk chain market. I have no idea, this one has a weird logo ... somehting like a MQ smooshed together. I'll pay attention to it closely, like I always do. But bike shops used to sell chain by the link in the old days and that chain had to be made by some industrial supply company, and that was what I was talking about. Cool. Srinath.
It isn't that industrial chain quality has deteriorated in the last 10 years, it's that bulk chain is and always has been produced with different ratings. Some stuff is appropriate for use as vehicle drive chain and some is not. If you can't tell readers which is which, I strongly suggest you stop advocating for the use of bulk chain, as things that are very much uncool can result from a wrong choice.
A good friend of fastfranky killed three of his friends using industrial chain. motorbikeman worked for 5 years designing chain drives for industrial applications and he says the industrial chain is not suitable for motorcycles.
Just because you haven't killed yourself yet does not mean that using industrial chain is OK.
Please refrain from advising members to use inferior parts just because you haven't killed yourself with them.
Last Edit: Dec 9, 2009 14:51:09 GMT -5 by pamcopete
OK guys fine. My last post was to say that it probably was the same stuff we used to get as chain at a bike shop in the old days. BTW the chains that have snapped/come off in my life were on my GS500 running a 520 bike specific chain. So its not like that cant happen. My friend recently had a failure also on a GS500 also with a regina 520 chain. But I understand, I may have inadvertently bought something good while someone else may have a different story buying cheapo stuff. Cool. Srinath.
I'm not sure if the pro industrial chain guys have done any research on the matter yet, but it may be worth contacting the manufacturers of these products before getting up to speed. Several years ago I had the same misguided thought, if it can be used to move several tons of freight back and forth in a wharehouse should move my scrawny arse on a 400lb cycle easy. I got the $10 length of 50 chain and used it set up the 18" rear wheel mod on my special, but had second thoughts about it and sent off emails to Renolds and EK, I think. One responded to my question with "Do not substitute motorcycle chain with any other type of chain, industrial or the like" or words to that effect. It seems they are built to different standards, like a truck to a high performance car, one cannot be used in place of the other. Industrial is designed to move the load, and motorcycle chain is made for very high speed, and if any of you have had a chain let go at speed it ain't pretty. This is not to piss anyone off, but please don't cut corners here,because like brakes, tires and suspension, it will throw you down quick and hard. Just my 2 cts worth. John.
Have a look at www.diamondchain.com . Diamond still makes bulk motorcycle chain. It's OK to use, it's inexpensive, and it's an entirely different product from Diamond's industrial chain. Don't confuse the two--that 50 chain from the local farm supply store doesn't belong on a motorcycle!
I agree on the farm store chain. I tried some, It won't hold up well even with lots of tlc. Ran it about 1000 miles. It rattled like a coffie can full of marbles. I put the old o-ring chain back on. I'll get a new chain before next riding season. I'll try a CC-Rider O-ring chain, A friend uses it on his Harley, gets over 50,000 miles, with good care.
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Glad my experience made a few others think about that spinning chain. Motorbikeman made a good point about the shock factor on that chain when you hit a bump. I thought more along the lines that the 650 is not a high h.p. bike and I don't drive mine like a seventeen yr old, but my saving a few buck experiment was not something to be proud of. Still wonder about swap meet deals. My buddy and I were at a car swap meet in Detriot and he bought a new chop saw from one of those tool vendors. About $ 65.00 , I agreed ,good deal. He used it on one tubing cut and little death smoke came out of the motor. Then nothing, He took it to a electric motor repair shop and a week later the guy told him he'd seen bigger motors in blenders. My purchase was a couple cut off wheels for 14 inch chop saw . As I cut something I watched it dissapear before my eyes. One blade ,one cut.No harm done, just wasted money, lesson learned. I was razzed by buddies for buying a cheap koreon tool set, just to leave in the trunk but any tool is better than nothing on the side of the road. Vise grips , wire and tape has saved me a few times.
Post by jetmechmarty on Mar 29, 2010 2:39:38 GMT -5
I put an O'ring chain on mine. I believe it's a TSUBAKI. It has been on my bike for several years. When the bike was new it seems I went through three sets of chains and sprockets in as many years. I adjusted the O'ring chain a couple of times and it's rare that I have to touch it. I just soak a rag with WD40 to clean it periodically.
You guys are so dead on. I spend money and hours upon hours of labor restoring a bike. All of my bikes have Oring chains. I don't want crap all over my wheels and I don't want problems when I ride. Besides, as little as some of these bikes are ridden, I will never have to replace the chain again! You really do get what you pay for.
As for me, I have a lot of living to do yet and there are some things that I'd never skimp on if it meant my safety. A broken chain at any speed can be very dangerous. I've done three chains now on three different bikes. Each named brand (Regina. EK, TSUBAKI, DID, ect...) O-ring or X-ring type. There's been a little stretch within the first hundred miles or so, but after that, they've stayed solid. If your thrifty, you can find deals on these chains, you may not find the legth you want, but that's easy to fix.
For example, I picked up a new Regina chain and sprocket set for a GSXR of eBay for $50. It came with a ~110 Link 530 Regina X-Ring chain. Then I ended up selling the sprockets on eBay for $36. So, I ended up getting a $180 chain for like $20. You just have to dig a little to find the deals.
The bike that I'm thinking about buying just snapped a Tsubaki 630 chain, and the guy replaced it with an RK 630 that is made for pro stock bikes. He said that he won't have a problem with chains on that bike again. This is what I was gonna buy if I sell my XS650 and another project.It's an '85 GS 1150E with a 1397 kit.That will be fun.
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