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Post by jtd650 on Jun 26, 2006 18:59:17 GMT -5
I have some new signal, brake and headlite pieces that I would like to change from chrome to black chrome to match my '83 Heritage look. Q: Do I have to have the pieces de-chromed first? Q: Is the process expensive? Almost complete with my project ... just in time for the Laguna Seac round of the '06 MotoGP Championship ! Goooo Nicky !!
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Post by heymeng on Jun 29, 2006 21:36:13 GMT -5
im not sure if this will work but its pretty cheap to do. they make a spray on smoke tint for automotive tailights. it would be much cheaper. and if it doesnt work you could always remove it by using mineral spirits. i wouldnt use it on any part of the exhaust though. just a thought.
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Post by jtd650 on Jun 30, 2006 12:04:10 GMT -5
interesting ... I'll check it out. thx, jd
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Post by kzjim on Jun 30, 2006 18:59:17 GMT -5
check out the forum at www.caswells.com... there might be someone who can help you out..
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Post by ShakerNorm on Jul 6, 2006 14:09:06 GMT -5
You might also look into Powdercoating (Sears makes a home Powdercoating kit for a reasonable price). Powdercoats are supposed to stick to Chrome (if you scuff it a bit - I haven't tried it myself on chrome, yet). Bigger parts could easily be done by a pro. There's all kinds of colours out there - including Black Chrome and Smoke Chrome.
Good luck, eh
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Post by sportydriver on Jul 9, 2006 8:30:43 GMT -5
MSC sell a powder coat system for $99.99. But, who has an extra oven in the basement?
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Post by cautioninc on Jul 9, 2006 11:41:26 GMT -5
You can use a cheapo toaster oven for smaller parts, or pick up a used one in the paper. When people get new ovens, they'll often sell the old one for little or nothing.
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Post by sportydriver on Jul 9, 2006 19:22:39 GMT -5
Has anyone tried small scale powder coating? Seems you could get the money back doing it yourself $100 for the paint kit, $250 for a new full sized oven from Sears, $50 or so to add a breaker and wiring in the basement and 6 or 7 bucks for paints $400 and you are in business
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Post by tomterrific on Jul 9, 2006 20:26:00 GMT -5
You guys are nuts if you buy an oven. I see electric ranges by the curb at trash day. I bet most of the ovens work fine.
Tom Graham
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Post by ShakerNorm on Jul 10, 2006 19:20:16 GMT -5
That's my plan, Tom & Sporty - I bought a Sears Powdercoating kit off eBay for $60, a $20 Toaster oven, and when I move into my new house, my old oven will be relegated to Powdercoating duties, since the new house has a new oven, too........ For $80, plus the cost of powders? I like that deal.
I'm hoping to get my carbs and other aluminum parts all polished up nice and shiny-like, then powdercoat them with clear so I don't have to do it any more.... A quick squirt with a hose and dry it off, and it's shiny again! Save myself a LOT of polishing work! Maybe even make a few $$ on the side doing powdercoating for friends, too.
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Post by kzjim on Jul 18, 2006 8:47:39 GMT -5
You have the right idea Norm.. i have a small PC business i run out of my garage.. i have a dbl wall oven for small stuff, i use the bottom to pre-bake and the top to cure.. i also built a 5'x3'x3' oven for big stuff. i clear on average 500 a month doing it on the side... 
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Post by spyug on Jul 18, 2006 10:15:21 GMT -5
Guys, This home powdercoating looks interesting. As I'm now fairly at ease with automotive paint/ clearcoat painting, I'd be interested in looking at this. 'specially if it can be turned into an income stream.
I am wondering how easy it is and how available the powders might be. Also is the process smelly or toxic? I always get in the doodoo when fiberglassing or painting, especially if I am in the house doing it.
I'd be interested in your comments.
Cheers, Spyug.
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Post by kzjim on Jul 18, 2006 10:40:22 GMT -5
Spyug.. Its an easy process.. the only real trick is getting the part clean.. really clean.. and knowing how much powder to get on the part to get a nice glossy finish.. not enough powder on the part or enough heat to cure and you will get 'orange peel'. Aluminum valve covers are the worst.. they soak up oil.. if you dont pre-bake, the oil will 'out-gas' and leave bubbles in the powder... then you have to strip and start over. i pre-bake anything aluminum from a motor at least 3 times. There are plenty of powder suppliers... i have 4 that i buy from, Caswell, Tyger-Drylac, Pendry and Columbia Coatings. The powder it self is not toxic.. its just ground up plastic. However... you still dont want to breath it and the curing process does give off some fumes that will make ya dizzy if you breathe it long enough.. i have a good respriator i wear and its fine.. As with painting there are tricks to make work eaiser and things to watch out for that will make life tough, esp if you have to strip a part and start over... Here is a manifold i just did.. its a mirror chrome base with candy translucent blue on top 
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Post by spyug on Jul 18, 2006 16:47:36 GMT -5
Thanks Kz, I think I'll try and pick up a starter kit and see how it goes.
Any recommendations on the starter kits? I tried to look up something from Sears as CPNorm suggested but wasn't able to find anything. I'll have a chat with my local paint guys and see if they have anything. Perhaps E-bay will be best for a low cost deal.
Cheers, spyug.
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Post by snowjw3090 on Jul 18, 2006 21:37:18 GMT -5
Go EASTWOOD I have used them all and for $99 bucks the eastwood kit does the best job by far. Depending on how bad the chrome is pitting you might need to sandblast or glass bead the parts and then powdercoat.
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