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Post by mashermoto on Nov 7, 2006 23:04:44 GMT -5
OK guys, I'm starting out as fresh road kill for ya. Here are some pictures of my host bike for my first street tracker project.    It's clean enough that I almost hate to tear it down  but I'll get over it  The previous owner had already made some good improvements, like powder coated side cases, K&N filters, pipes of some type, new petcocks and handle bars. The seller also provided plenty of extras, like brake rebuild kits, gasket kits, new handle bar grips, new coils, new points, all the original parts that were replaced and an extra 650 standard tank.   My Hotwing rear fender and seat are on their way. My next step is to see if I can get it to start before I do the tear down. Now my bonus pictures  A few weeks before I bought the 650, I went to meet a guy way out east of Oklahoma City about what I thought would be a 650 twin. Turned out to be a 650 4 cylinder  BUT he also had a 1978 XS1100 (first year) that was complete, but the engine was out and most of the parts were spread out on the floor       PLUS he had a 1979 XS1100 Special except for the frame that was to be used for parts  We agreed on a price I thought was fair so I took it home      The XS1100 Standard is all there, so it seems to me the best way to go is restore it closer to original. But the XS1100 Special could be more fun. I know it is outside the genre, but what do you guys think of a XS1100 street tracker  It would probably handle like an WWI Army tank, but it might look cool, and would definitely light up the road. The XS1100s are road burners to begin with. Ought to be real fun to ride after a Crew Chief Jack style port job Here is my last bonus photo. I call it my Big Green Ugly  It's a Champion R30C air compressor. I spotted it in the back yard of a guys acreage. Just sitting there in an open field with no cover getting rusty. So I offered him $125 bucks and brought it home. Let me tell you, that is the heaviest chuck of steel I have ever tried to move I have to use an engine hoist to remove the compressor motor and electric motor. Then I chain the tank and move it. I had to replace the valves (super easy and cheap to do) and purchase a new electric motor. A friend sold me that 3 phase converter you see on the floor to the right for a $100 buckers (also an exceptional deal). Hooked everything up and it has worked great Man, when the relay kicks in to fill the tank, I can be using an air grinder and the compressor will drive the tool and still fill the tank. Usually the first question people ask me when they see Big Green Ugly in my residential garage is, "What are you going to do with that?" I just tell them...anything I want ;D OK, once again I gave you guys a drink from a fire hose, so I'll shut er down here. If you get a chance, let me know what you think. |
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Post by jetmechmarty on Nov 8, 2006 10:59:34 GMT -5
That XS1100 could make for a very cool cafe racer. Picture it with round headlight, small flyscreen, clubman bars, and Omar's seat! ;D Fast too! Have a visit to www.xs11.com for some ideas and www.cb750cafe.com for more ideas. |
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Post by mashermoto on Nov 9, 2006 20:07:19 GMT -5
Well...I got the 650 running last night The problem was the ignition timing. Got to tell ya...timing a 650 is easier than I thought. I hope the rebuild goes as well. After I got the engine to fire I aired up the cracked, rock hard, out of balance tires with the Big Green Ugly, then checked the oil and prepared for a night time ride around the neighborhood to see if this thing had gears. With some sputtering and backfires I was able to make a few laps and everything does appear to work It was really cool to be on a bike again, especially since I haven't ridden in 20 to 25 years Man, in the old days I had to have the rear tire sliding sideways or the front wheel getting air time. Sometimes both Now I find I'm more like those wobblers I used to snicker at Now the official tear down begins  |
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Post by jeepurze on Nov 9, 2006 20:19:39 GMT -5
hey I scored an xs 1100 couple months ago and just started workin on it, got it to run, any idea how many miles time chains good for ? this has 28k. im goin cafe streetfighter mix. not near as easy to find info on these like the xs 650. If you should happen across a simple chopper wiring diagram let me know its 79 special. no sigs simple ig switch with head tail and brake horn only.
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Post by jeepurze on Nov 9, 2006 20:21:47 GMT -5
hey I scored an xs 1100 couple months ago and just started workin on it, got it to run, any idea how many miles time chains good for ? this has 28k. im goin cafe streetfighter mix. not near as easy to find info on these like the xs 650. If you should happen across a simple chopper wiring diagram let me know its 79 special. no sigs simple ig switch with head tail and brake horn only. keepus posted on how it goes, YOUZ GONA HAVE SOME FUN |
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Post by mashermoto on Nov 10, 2006 9:30:14 GMT -5
Don't know about the timing chain longivety. My 1100 standard has 39,000 and I might replace the chain just because I'll be in there, but I would guess the chains would last quite a while. If you intend to really be hammering your cafe/street fighter, I would consider replacing it. If not, I would be inclined to keep it. I would also imagine the longivity would be about the same as a 650, and there are plenty of guys to give advice on that issue. Anybody know? You know, the XS1100 would make a good cafe racer; probably the best modification theme for it. But man, I got a lower back disk that would give me greif after a few miles. With a younger back and a few less racing scares, a XS1100 cafe racer would be groovey. Your are right about the info available for XS1100's. Not much info out there that I found yet. The post from jetmechmarty is about as good as it gets. www.xs11.com has some info, but not anything like this board. I'll post any sights I run across. |
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Post by jetmechmarty on Nov 10, 2006 13:10:11 GMT -5
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Post by mashermoto on Nov 10, 2006 18:27:26 GMT -5
Yes indeed. Clean and simple. It's like Larry the Cable Guy would say: "That's pretty darn good right thar." "If you don't think that's good, you can just get the he.. outa here right now!" "That's right."
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Post by jeepurze on Nov 10, 2006 20:00:03 GMT -5
Don't know about the timing chain longivety. My 1100 standard has 39,000 and I might replace the chain just because I'll be in there, but I would guess the chains would last quite a while. If you intend to really be hammering your cafe/street fighter, I would consider replacing it. If not, I would be inclined to keep it. I would also imagine the longivity would be about the same as a 650, and there are plenty of guys to give advice on that issue. Anybody know? You know, the XS1100 would make a good cafe racer; probably the best modification theme for it. But man, I got a lower back disk that would give me greif after a few miles. With a younger back and a few less racing scares, a XS1100 cafe racer would be groovey. Your are right about the info available for XS1100's. Not much info out there that I found yet. The post from jetmechmarty is about as good as it gets. www.xs11.com has some info, but not anything like this board. I'll post any sights I run across. yup pur , this is the site for anyinfo you want on the 650, they know em backwards fowards in and out, Ive never seen an xs question get unanswered here and you can bet it will be the right answere. I didnt realize how handy this site was till I started other projects thinkin maybe there was a board like this for each bike , THERE AINT. on the 1100 have you tried the UK version board? |
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Post by mashermoto on Nov 10, 2006 21:14:24 GMT -5
Didn't know about a UK site. The other day I did run across a search that had pictures of a bike in Holland I think that had a turbo kit. I think the US site has an article about the turbo also. I don't think I want to get that radical |
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Post by mashermoto on Nov 16, 2006 22:36:07 GMT -5
Need another opinion on something. I've been looking around for a cheap solution for light duty welding. Light duty as defined by residential garage use on weekends welding brackets on 650 frames to mount things like Hotwing tracker seat/fenders, half mile pipe mounts, etc. Harbor Freight has a 90 amp Central Electric setup on sale for $119 buckers. Lowes has a neat looking Lincoln welder equivalent for just under $400. Ebay has them at every price range, but the lower cost units usually have really high shipping cost. All feature flux core wire feed so that gas is not required. Also, I haven't welded since Future Farmers of America class in 1972 (how old does that make me) So I desire something easy to use. So here is my question: For the type of light duty welding I plan to do, and my skill level, is the Harbor Freight welder still too cheap? |
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Post by 50gary on Nov 16, 2006 23:23:15 GMT -5
![]() <center> <a href="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v498/50gary/XS11familypictures017.jpg" target="_blank"> <img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v498/50gary/th_XS11familypictures017.jpg"></a> </center>[/img]I bought an XS11 back in March 1978e low miles but needed quite a bit to get it back on the road. I've started to modify it (what else do you do with an old bike?) Cheers, 50gary |
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Post by mashermoto on Nov 17, 2006 19:28:46 GMT -5
Good question Gary...what does a guy do with an XS1100? I think you have to just work with what you're given. My standard 1100 is as stock as you can get. So I have settled on tearing it down and putting it back together like it rolled off the floor new. Exceptions will be pipes because stockers are the highest priced pipes in the stinkin world They are somewhere around a thousand buckers or more. I want to keep reliability high on the list so the only engine mods in store are maybe a head port via Jack's posts. Lastly, is the paint job. The stock Yamaha Macho Red with gold pin strip is a pretty good look, but I used an automotive base coat clear coat paint on my golf cart that I really like. It's a stock paint used for KIA cars. Can't remember the name, but the red has small flakes if you look close. A gold pin strip in the stock layout would give a good classy look. I think that would make for a good highway bike. My XS1100 special is another story. I don't have a frame, but I have most everything else. So this one I can have fun building Cafe racers are a great option, but I don't have the back for it. A really big and wide street tracker would be fun to ride on the open road. What ever I do I will post it. |
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Post by jeepurze on Nov 17, 2006 20:32:49 GMT -5
well if ay of you find a 4-1 collector pipe and dont want it gemme a yell I dont care what it looks like , junk pipes are outragous for these things.
also if anyone knows about this , if found it google info but thelink was down, feel free to give me an email or pm.
quote from google search.
Technical information for owners of ... Petcock Mod to Eliminate Engine Vacuum Control & Leaky Petcocks!
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Post by 50gary on Nov 17, 2006 22:19:44 GMT -5
mashermoto, I would stick to a special frame when looking for a replacement to build on, as it has one less degree of rake and therefore will give quicker handling. I'm taking mine toward a sport touring hotrod type of thing. Maybe a bit of survival bike thrown in for image, it's O.D. green and black. I have a set of R1 forks I'm slowly working on. I do have the XS11 stem in the R1 triple clamp thus far and that was a big step. I have a new rear brake from an SV650 low mounted. I don't use the rear brake all that much but the original is not to my liking and is super heavy like most of the XS11! The stock front wheel weighs 39.5# and the R1 14# less and it's nearly twice as wide, ah well modern technology.
BTW jeepures, I plan on making a set of 4 into 1 headers for the XS11 so I'll be selling the entire system some day this winter? Condition is fair to good they're solid but discolored not rusty.
Cheers, 50gary
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but I'll get over it 
The previous owner had already made some good improvements, like powder coated side cases, K&N filters, pipes of some type, new petcocks and handle bars.
BUT he also had a 1978 XS1100 (first year) that was complete, but the engine was out and most of the parts were spread out on the floor 
We agreed on a price I thought was fair so I took it home 
It would probably handle like an WWI Army tank, but it might look cool, and would definitely light up the road. The XS1100s are road burners to begin with. Ought to be real fun to ride after a Crew Chief Jack style port job 
