The sport-touring route makes a lot more sense to me than a cafe for the 1100 motor. It is heavy and strong. They were the fastest thing on the street for a while and got drag-raced a lot. 2nd gear is banged out of a lot of them as a result. Your starter bike for the XS project looks better than my end-product!
Post by mashermoto on Oct 19, 2007 20:50:38 GMT -5
I agree Burns. I found a website from a guy in Kansas that dedicates his life to rebuilding XS1100's. Makes great aftermarket seats, cowlings, etc. I haven't checked into it yet, but he claims he has a fix for the 2nd gear issue.
Heck Capt, what's an opinion for if you can't impose it on everybody else that will listen - that's my motto.
As to 2nd gear on the 11, I don't think that it is a design problem, it is just something that breaks when the bike is abused long enough. If yours needs fixin', fix it; if it ain't broke don't worry about it.
Two projects in front of it - now that is a man with a well though out life.
But, if you don't want all the gory details, here is the almost finished system
In order to finish this up I have file the trigger disc to final specifications. Once the slot is filed, I'll paint the trigger disc flat black like everything else. That will prevent unwanted reflections from possibly causing a miss fire.
Here are the coils from the left side. These are 2.5 ohm Crane Cam single fire coils retro fitted on the stock coil mounts. All the wires tucked in nicely.
Here are the coils from the right side with the flasher relocated. All ground wires terminate on this side also.
The trailer wire plug for the Pamcopete black box connects at the seat end of the back bone. Pete designed the box to eliminate the wasted spark produced by conventional ignition systems. I'm real happy with the way the flat plug tucks in with the rest of the wiring harness.
Here is a shot of the relay and black box. The relay is mounted on a frame nut not being used. It's that small square box with the four wires connected. Pamcopete designed the circuit to eliminate voltage loss which can occur because of poor engine kill switch contacts.
This shows how to wire the modification for the "killer switch." The yellow wire from the relay connects to the regulator. The Mikes XS replacement rectifier/regulator connects the brown ignition wire to a blue wire (brown on the wiring harness side and blue on the regulator side of the connector). I split the wire between the connector and the regulator. You can see where the blue wire off the connector is capped, and the yellow wire connects to the blue going into the regulator. The brown wire to the ignition switch is abandoned.
This is as far as I can go with the ignition system and "killer switch" modifications. The next major engine project is getting some VM carbs from Mercury Morris
Post by mashermoto on Nov 11, 2007 20:57:42 GMT -5
Just to let everyone know...the Pamcopete ignition system fired today ;D
Here are the Accel spark plug wires I found. The kit has one 60" 8mm carbon suppression wire, several cap ends, terminals, and crimping tools. It's basically Accel's super stock wire used for original equipment replacement, but larger diameter.
Here is the installed wire.
Before you buy a set of wires for this type of ignition, read the 277 ignition post first. Pete has a recommendation for a less expensive set.
Post by mashermoto on Nov 19, 2007 19:41:43 GMT -5
The VM34's came in today...let's hear a big Whoooo Hoooo ;D
For those of you that have always wonders what you get with one of those 650Central carb kits...here it is
The sync barbs are mounted on the engine side of the carbs, which is cool The rubber mounts are really beefy and should hold the carbs without tearing. And if you are into technical reading...like I am...then dig your choppers into the Mikuni tuning manual included
One thing that I wasn't expecting was the super speedy shipping So...I guess the wheels and brakes I've been working on have to go to the back burners
Post by mashermoto on Dec 15, 2007 22:27:49 GMT -5
The ice storm that came through has put a halt to everything...including electric service So nothing is going on in the garage.
This is my truck that has to spend it's nights outside because the garage is too full of street tracker projects ;D You really can't see it...but it is covered top, front, back and sides with 1/4 to 3/8 inch of ice. Even using the remote start to let the heater run I couldn't get the doors open
At least it held up better than my neighbor's tree ;D Just about every other tree in the state of Oklahoma looks like that, which is why we loose electricity
Well...here is some progress that has been made.
The front wheel has been stripped of paint. I also have etcher, primer and paint to refinish it, but that will wait until the temperature is better.
The V-Max brake master cylinder is stripped and ready to paint. Also got the rebuild kits waiting to be installed. I have a V-Max clutch master cylinder and rebuild kit in the parts bin. Some time later I plan to rig up one of those hydraulic clutches
Both front XS1100 calipers are rebuilt and hung on the fork legs. I ordered new XS650 hoses for them but found out they won't reach the calipers Oh well...throw them in the pile of parts for the next tracker and order some longer ones.
And least I forget...the Mikunis mounted up real nicely
The Uni Pods fit perfect behind the side plates.
I'm cool with the breather filter mounting location, which is off the top rear engine mount just below the left carb. I doesn't fit well on the right side because of the dip stick.
MasherMoto, as long as you have to order new brake lines I recommend using Stainless steel lines. I use Galfer, they will custom make them to length for almost the same price as their off the shelf. High quality, good service. Cheers, 50gary
Man that's Lookin Good! I've just been reading over your posts on the ignition and the rephase. You've inspired me to do the crank myself, hope you don't mind if I wind up buggin' you for tips. I had been getting parts together for the Riggs $19 special, but I may wind up copying what you and Pete worked up. THat looks easier to implement on a 277. Where did you source that nifty crane coil? Keep it up, good stuff!
r80rt: :)This is a splendid write up, THANK YOU!!!!
Dec 26, 2015 16:54:05 GMT -5
mashermoto: What the what is this shoutbox for? Or should I shout, WHAT THE WHAT IS THIS SHOUTBOX FOR!
May 12, 2016 22:22:21 GMT -5
motormike: Good Day ...just a FYI.. Wild Cat is this Labor Day weekend. Still go'n on. A few 650's still make the scene. Various rides at different skill levels each day.. awards dinner sunday eve. BS in the park'n lot after dinner.
Aug 23, 2016 7:57:01 GMT -5
lsettle: First post in over 6 years!
Aug 28, 2016 19:45:17 GMT -5
kardon: Wow quiet here, where did they all go.
Oct 7, 2016 2:18:13 GMT -5
gggGary: XS650.com LOL
Feb 16, 2017 20:49:02 GMT -5
buell88: Anybody have any idea who built the xs650 tracker used in the Draggin Jeans Ad on Pipeburn?
May 16, 2017 16:24:09 GMT -5
joshua: The regulator/rectifier unit I got from Mikes PMA has closer hole spacing than original. Are we supposed to mill the holes to fit?
Jun 7, 2017 19:25:58 GMT -5
joshua: My bad. I found the bracket they supplied to mount the rectifier/regulator... Uh oh. How is this meant to work? Which way is it meant to mount? Looks like I have to use some spacers or something. Good instructions would be nice.
Jun 7, 2017 22:09:52 GMT -5
craig8johnson: Not sure if this is the right spot or not but oh well...
Jul 11, 2017 18:04:15 GMT -5
craig8johnson: I'm checking the charging system. I'm afraid I might have fried the last battery. With the solid state regulator (after market) what should it be charging at. The book says, I think, 15 volts. I'm hitting 17 when revved. Is that too high?
Jul 11, 2017 18:06:19 GMT -5
gggGary: Yes 17 volts is too high, about 14 volts is max, sounds like you don't have the right regulator or it's wired wrong.
Jul 13, 2017 6:54:33 GMT -5
dean: Just saying Hello, new member who is going to fix up a 79 XS650 that has seen its better days. I will definitely have lots of questions coming up.
Jun 23, 2018 16:45:32 GMT -5
tt650: Trying to breathe life into a 1980 that's been stored (indoors) for 25 yrs. Air filters are dry rotted. Have cleaned carbs but she only runs briefly on choke then stops. Need jet setting info and other ideas that might help her idle and rev.
Jul 3, 2018 19:15:19 GMT -5
trix13: Hey everyone! New to the forum and am fighting those gremlins!! New charging system, ignition switch, coil and fuse box. Resistance is higher than normal on the ignition pick up so I'm trying to find one. No such luck yet.
Aug 16, 2018 8:50:48 GMT -5
trix13: Also, even though all of my connections are clean, I cannot seem to find out why , when at higher rpms, I hit the signals and the rpms pulse with the signals...hahah. same with the brake light. I appreciate all input!!
Aug 16, 2018 8:55:08 GMT -5
bob99: how do I post a question. I am new to the forum
Jun 6, 2019 10:52:10 GMT -5
adlpc: Hello all! Been enjoying your edifying posts and discussions - and as a fan of the XS650 since my early teenage years happy that I now own a 1980 Special which I plan to turn into a vintage half faired racer. Thank you all for being here!
Oct 1, 2019 0:58:56 GMT -5
jimothyj: Hello everyone, I just joined & wish would have known about this site in 2014 when I brought my 1974 TX650A back from the grave. I have spent a good deal of $$ and alot of time on it. Just painted it and working on electrical, I will post pics soon,
Apr 10, 2021 2:14:13 GMT -5
louisvan: trix13 - I had a problem with my 1975 SX650. When I got to highway speeds, the engine lost power. The problem was in the connectors. At a certain vibration and the wind pushing on the wiring loom, the connector lost continuity. A bad crimp to the wire.
May 20, 2021 1:19:09 GMT -5